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		<title>By: Luciano Lassalle</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/10/01/stuck-in-the-middle-with-you-as-long-as-you-agree-with-me/#comment-2567</link>
		<dc:creator>Luciano Lassalle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 19:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 independent voice about BBC within the Television show. He features a truly tough immigration law scheme. This individual graduated on the Harvard College. At this time he has his one Airwaves Show. He do not like the particular U . s citizens president.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 independent voice about BBC within the Television show. He features a truly tough immigration law scheme. This individual graduated on the Harvard College. At this time he has his one Airwaves Show. He do not like the particular U . s citizens president.</p>
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		<title>By: Rutherford</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/10/01/stuck-in-the-middle-with-you-as-long-as-you-agree-with-me/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 20:01:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just read it HP. Great post. I&#039;m fighting a chest cold but will comment as soon as I can! Welcome back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read it HP. Great post. I&#8217;m fighting a chest cold but will comment as soon as I can! Welcome back!</p>
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		<title>By: hippieprof</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/10/01/stuck-in-the-middle-with-you-as-long-as-you-agree-with-me/#comment-747</link>
		<dc:creator>hippieprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK - I am back - new blog just posted.  Hopefully there is something there to offend just about anybody....

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK &#8211; I am back &#8211; new blog just posted.  Hopefully there is something there to offend just about anybody&#8230;.<br />
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		<title>By: sensico</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/10/01/stuck-in-the-middle-with-you-as-long-as-you-agree-with-me/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>sensico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:42:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>happy to hear that! you were one of my fav. bloggers and I thought Tex and DR scared you away with their stupidness :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>happy to hear that! you were one of my fav. bloggers and I thought Tex and DR scared you away with their stupidness <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rutherford</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/10/01/stuck-in-the-middle-with-you-as-long-as-you-agree-with-me/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 18:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HP, you know you&#039;ve made a positive impact when die-hard conservative Tex Taylor actually misses you. :-)

BTW, I compose all my articles in my head before committing them to &quot;paper&quot;. It&#039;s an odd process but it has always worked for me.

P.S. Good to have you back and sorry you&#039;ve been through so much lately!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HP, you know you&#8217;ve made a positive impact when die-hard conservative Tex Taylor actually misses you. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, I compose all my articles in my head before committing them to &#8220;paper&#8221;. It&#8217;s an odd process but it has always worked for me.</p>
<p>P.S. Good to have you back and sorry you&#8217;ve been through so much lately!</p>
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		<title>By: hippieprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>hippieprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tex - no - not retired.  I put myself on brief hiatus because of some family-related stress (two deaths in or close to the family, separated by 3 weeks, plus serious illness or accidents with two other family members).  I just didn&#039;t have the energy to obsess about politics on top of all of that.  

Things have (hopefully) settled down and I will soon be back in the fray.  I have been composing articles in my head for the last couple of weeks - and I suspect I will start posting again later this week.  

God knows the freakin&#039; Democrats need me.....

-- hp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tex &#8211; no &#8211; not retired.  I put myself on brief hiatus because of some family-related stress (two deaths in or close to the family, separated by 3 weeks, plus serious illness or accidents with two other family members).  I just didn&#8217;t have the energy to obsess about politics on top of all of that.  </p>
<p>Things have (hopefully) settled down and I will soon be back in the fray.  I have been composing articles in my head for the last couple of weeks &#8211; and I suspect I will start posting again later this week.  </p>
<p>God knows the freakin&#8217; Democrats need me&#8230;..</p>
<p>&#8211; hp</p>
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		<title>By: Tex Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tex Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 00:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did my old friend HippieProf retire?  Though I thought you the academic loon (about 90% of them are), I did find you an interesting loon...

Hope all finds you well at the university old friend.  Rock on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did my old friend HippieProf retire?  Though I thought you the academic loon (about 90% of them are), I did find you an interesting loon&#8230;</p>
<p>Hope all finds you well at the university old friend.  Rock on!</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:53:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:I can grant you more credibility on other areas of the budget.
Don&#039;t.  Just look at Obama&#039;s  with incredibility.

He deserves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:I can grant you more credibility on other areas of the budget.<br />
Don&#8217;t.  Just look at Obama&#8217;s  with incredibility.</p>
<p>He deserves it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:Could you explain to me why most conservatives look at every aspect of the budget EXCEPT military spending?

Sigh - another blanket statement. 

Traditionally, conservatives are advocates of a strong military. liberals,  not so much.

Since getting into office, Gates, under Obama has canceled the F-22 Raptor program.  In an 6 April 2009 press conference, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is recommending the cancellation of the planned second ABL aircraft and that the program return to a Research and Development effort.

But even Republicans are realists which goes to nullify that blanket statement.

In May 2008, the $11 billion Crusader artillery system, targeted for extinction by White House budget-cutters but fiercely defended by high-ranking Army leadership, was formally killed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.

Cheney reduced the number of Stealth bombers the Pentagon requested to 75 from 132. 

Defense Secretary Dick Cheney&#039;s decided in January 1991 to cancel the A-12 attack plane because of delays and cost overruns.

RE:You’re eager to send 40,000 more troops into Afghanistan. 
Yep, and I&#039;d be willing to wager more Americans are killed while Obama stutters and stammers on this decision.  You had better hope nothing happens to our boys here and abroad by Obamas failure to support them.

RE:Ever done an ROI analysis n it?
Nope.  Have you?  What is the actual ROI on war and how does one actually begin that calculation while the variables are still yet to be fully known?

What was the ROI of developing and using the bomb in the Pacific War?  It&#039;s a lot easier to do that calculation;  it saved millions of lives.   

Yes, war is hell, but god damn it, once you start to wage it, win the mother and win it sooner than later.  Never waiver.  Ever.

RE:We still have troops in Japan and Germany. Why?
By the nature of the question, it&#039;s clear you don&#039;t understand the history of those wars.  

In a nut-shell, it&#039;s generally called an instrument of surrender and is a legally binding document.  We were involved in setting the conditions for both of those surrenders.

There is also the Cold War and the importance of our continued presence in the European theater.  NATO was a large part of that.

RE:Tell me how much you’re willing to trim out of the Pentagon and then maybe I can grant you more credibility on other areas of the budget.

Unrealistic of you to ask me that. I have little or no access to the Pentagon&#039;s budget or knowledge of areas of classified R&amp;D programs.

In general, I would probably be thinking about the daily (cyber, verbal, literal and overt) threats  coming from China, North Korea, Russia, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, 
Islamic nations engaged in state-sponsored terrorism, other nations which support them (Venezuela, Cuba) and then make a decision beginning with that.  That sounds pretty real to me.

And you?  Stick a finger in the air?   &quot;Feel&quot; like America is the bad guy and wonder why we can&#039;t &quot;just get along&quot; as Rodney King puts it?

Wake up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:Could you explain to me why most conservatives look at every aspect of the budget EXCEPT military spending?</p>
<p>Sigh &#8211; another blanket statement. </p>
<p>Traditionally, conservatives are advocates of a strong military. liberals,  not so much.</p>
<p>Since getting into office, Gates, under Obama has canceled the F-22 Raptor program.  In an 6 April 2009 press conference, Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is recommending the cancellation of the planned second ABL aircraft and that the program return to a Research and Development effort.</p>
<p>But even Republicans are realists which goes to nullify that blanket statement.</p>
<p>In May 2008, the $11 billion Crusader artillery system, targeted for extinction by White House budget-cutters but fiercely defended by high-ranking Army leadership, was formally killed by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld.</p>
<p>Cheney reduced the number of Stealth bombers the Pentagon requested to 75 from 132. </p>
<p>Defense Secretary Dick Cheney&#8217;s decided in January 1991 to cancel the A-12 attack plane because of delays and cost overruns.</p>
<p>RE:You’re eager to send 40,000 more troops into Afghanistan.<br />
Yep, and I&#8217;d be willing to wager more Americans are killed while Obama stutters and stammers on this decision.  You had better hope nothing happens to our boys here and abroad by Obamas failure to support them.</p>
<p>RE:Ever done an ROI analysis n it?<br />
Nope.  Have you?  What is the actual ROI on war and how does one actually begin that calculation while the variables are still yet to be fully known?</p>
<p>What was the ROI of developing and using the bomb in the Pacific War?  It&#8217;s a lot easier to do that calculation;  it saved millions of lives.   </p>
<p>Yes, war is hell, but god damn it, once you start to wage it, win the mother and win it sooner than later.  Never waiver.  Ever.</p>
<p>RE:We still have troops in Japan and Germany. Why?<br />
By the nature of the question, it&#8217;s clear you don&#8217;t understand the history of those wars.  </p>
<p>In a nut-shell, it&#8217;s generally called an instrument of surrender and is a legally binding document.  We were involved in setting the conditions for both of those surrenders.</p>
<p>There is also the Cold War and the importance of our continued presence in the European theater.  NATO was a large part of that.</p>
<p>RE:Tell me how much you’re willing to trim out of the Pentagon and then maybe I can grant you more credibility on other areas of the budget.</p>
<p>Unrealistic of you to ask me that. I have little or no access to the Pentagon&#8217;s budget or knowledge of areas of classified R&amp;D programs.</p>
<p>In general, I would probably be thinking about the daily (cyber, verbal, literal and overt) threats  coming from China, North Korea, Russia, Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran,<br />
Islamic nations engaged in state-sponsored terrorism, other nations which support them (Venezuela, Cuba) and then make a decision beginning with that.  That sounds pretty real to me.</p>
<p>And you?  Stick a finger in the air?   &#8220;Feel&#8221; like America is the bad guy and wonder why we can&#8217;t &#8220;just get along&#8221; as Rodney King puts it?</p>
<p>Wake up.</p>
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		<title>By: Rutherford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rutherford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:15:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, you are focused on spending and rightfully so. Could you explain to me why most conservatives look at every aspect of the budget EXCEPT military spending? You&#039;re eager to send 40,000 more troops into Afghanistan. Ever done an ROI analysis n it? Of course we now know the Iraq war was fought off the books (irresponsible if not downright criminal). We still have troops in Japan and Germany. Why?

Tell me how much you&#039;re willing to trim out of the Pentagon and then maybe I can grant you more credibility on other areas of the budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, you are focused on spending and rightfully so. Could you explain to me why most conservatives look at every aspect of the budget EXCEPT military spending? You&#8217;re eager to send 40,000 more troops into Afghanistan. Ever done an ROI analysis n it? Of course we now know the Iraq war was fought off the books (irresponsible if not downright criminal). We still have troops in Japan and Germany. Why?</p>
<p>Tell me how much you&#8217;re willing to trim out of the Pentagon and then maybe I can grant you more credibility on other areas of the budget.</p>
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