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		<title>By: Tim Wood</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Mar 2010 22:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. May I add your blog to my link exchange directory?</description>
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		<title>By: Gerald Panama</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-744</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald Panama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I usually don&#039;t ordinarily post on many Blogs, nevertheless I just has to say thank you... keep up the amazing work.  Ok unfortunately its time to get to school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I usually don&#8217;t ordinarily post on many Blogs, nevertheless I just has to say thank you&#8230; keep up the amazing work.  Ok unfortunately its time to get to school.</p>
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		<title>By: hippieprof</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>hippieprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sockit....

I am glad you don&#039;t only blame Dems for the mortgage crisis - as I just mentioned to Ben many had dirty hands.

I am a bit curious about this statement though:

&quot;Do I blame the continued lack of recovery on Ds or Obama? Yes, because markets and business owners are ALL looking for some stability, are horrified at government takeovers and bailouts ( I was against the Bush one!) and are scared of new mandates, new regulations and new taxes which will all cut into their already thin margins.&quot;

All of the leading economic indicators suggest that in fact we are in recovery already - so you are essentially blaming Obama for something that does not even exist.  Employment is unfortunately a trailing indicator - so even though the economy is improving it will still take a while unti we see significant job growth - but we are getting there.  I know this does not really help much for someone in your situation - but indeed it looks like the economy has turned.

You state:  &quot;BTW…you never retorted about the fact that I brought up about Joe Biden and his wife giving $368 dollars to charity….when they raked in over $360,000 in one year. That, from the man who says it is my duty to pay more taxes! …..Do you see the injustice? the cowardice? the hypocrisy? PLEASE RETORT!&quot;

It indeed seems skimpy - and if it is accurate it seems hypocritical.  It seems *so* low it almost seems like it might be inaccurate - but who knows.  Also note that he could be doing some charitable pro-bono work, which would not be rreported - or may even not be repoorting some.  But - I don&#039;t know.

-- hippieprof</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sockit&#8230;.</p>
<p>I am glad you don&#8217;t only blame Dems for the mortgage crisis &#8211; as I just mentioned to Ben many had dirty hands.</p>
<p>I am a bit curious about this statement though:</p>
<p>&#8220;Do I blame the continued lack of recovery on Ds or Obama? Yes, because markets and business owners are ALL looking for some stability, are horrified at government takeovers and bailouts ( I was against the Bush one!) and are scared of new mandates, new regulations and new taxes which will all cut into their already thin margins.&#8221;</p>
<p>All of the leading economic indicators suggest that in fact we are in recovery already &#8211; so you are essentially blaming Obama for something that does not even exist.  Employment is unfortunately a trailing indicator &#8211; so even though the economy is improving it will still take a while unti we see significant job growth &#8211; but we are getting there.  I know this does not really help much for someone in your situation &#8211; but indeed it looks like the economy has turned.</p>
<p>You state:  &#8220;BTW…you never retorted about the fact that I brought up about Joe Biden and his wife giving $368 dollars to charity….when they raked in over $360,000 in one year. That, from the man who says it is my duty to pay more taxes! …..Do you see the injustice? the cowardice? the hypocrisy? PLEASE RETORT!&#8221;</p>
<p>It indeed seems skimpy &#8211; and if it is accurate it seems hypocritical.  It seems *so* low it almost seems like it might be inaccurate &#8211; but who knows.  Also note that he could be doing some charitable pro-bono work, which would not be rreported &#8211; or may even not be repoorting some.  But &#8211; I don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>&#8211; hippieprof</p>
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		<title>By: hippieprof</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-244</link>
		<dc:creator>hippieprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 01:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben - I did read your article and left a comment on your blog.  As I said there, your analysis is interesting but oversimplified.  You seem to praise Bush for some speeches he gave but fail to mention that he failed to push through significant reform legislation despite controlling both houses of congress.

Lots of hands were dirty in the mortgage crisis - including Democrats and including Bush&#039;s.

-- hippieprof</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211; I did read your article and left a comment on your blog.  As I said there, your analysis is interesting but oversimplified.  You seem to praise Bush for some speeches he gave but fail to mention that he failed to push through significant reform legislation despite controlling both houses of congress.</p>
<p>Lots of hands were dirty in the mortgage crisis &#8211; including Democrats and including Bush&#8217;s.</p>
<p>&#8211; hippieprof</p>
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		<title>By: sockit2me</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-242</link>
		<dc:creator>sockit2me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 18:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again HP!

I can see you have gotten together quite the debate going!

RE: when you said &quot;I am curious, though, how you can blame this economic downturn on liberals? When Bush took over the economy was thriving – and the policies of his administration directly resulted in the steep economic decline.&quot;

I tend not to give credit or blame to any President for economics...good or bad. There are so many forces at work.  And, my term, or at least I thought it was my term that day months ago - obamanated- was a rib at two things 
A) corporate America and the whole &quot;job elmination&quot; process that I have been through a number of times at different places - which is just the nature of the beast and 
B) the fact that my job was in a creative field which relied heavily on companies which do work in the real estate market. .....the policies (noted above) going back to Jimmy Carter....created the seeds of the bad events that caused the housing and real estate market to downturn. There was plenty of R and D blame to go around, but - at least- during the Bush administration there was an effort, led by Rs to bring some sanity to the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debacle.   And Barney Frank and Chris Dodd declared all was right with those worlds, which was a lie. 

Finally, I have a sense of humor so I got a kick out of that name.  

Do I blame my singular job loss on Ds or Obama? No, lots of forces are at work with one person.

Do I blame the continued lack of recovery on Ds or Obama? Yes, because markets and business owners are ALL looking for some stability, are horrified at government takeovers and bailouts ( I was against the Bush one!) and are scared of new mandates, new regulations and new taxes which will all cut into their already thin margins.
You DO think it is okay for a business person - who invests time, money and passion into a risky investment...to make a margin? Don&#039;t you? 

America is wonderful. Capitalism is the greatest manna from heaven, but you know what, competition is tough, and it is worldwide and consumers have and make choices.............and many government policies and bureaucrats...have NO idea! 

Do I want to be employed? You bet!  Have I invested in that? Yes, including investing in a small new business for me, by myself, which likely will not Break Even (please tell me you know what I mean) in maybe two years...and will MAYBE return me to the kind of compensation I was making.......in about three plus years! 

And when I make money...I spend money and I invest it....and that means a lot more people make money...etc.  Right now.....that ain&#039;t happening. 

BTW...you never retorted about the fact that I brought up about Joe Biden and his wife giving $368 dollars to charity....when they raked in over $360,000 in one year.    That, from the man who says it is my duty to pay more taxes!  .....Do you see the injustice? the cowardice? the hypocrisy?  PLEASE RETORT! 

on my way to create my signs for the 9-12 event tomorrow! I will be the one with the funny signs with a message!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again HP!</p>
<p>I can see you have gotten together quite the debate going!</p>
<p>RE: when you said &#8220;I am curious, though, how you can blame this economic downturn on liberals? When Bush took over the economy was thriving – and the policies of his administration directly resulted in the steep economic decline.&#8221;</p>
<p>I tend not to give credit or blame to any President for economics&#8230;good or bad. There are so many forces at work.  And, my term, or at least I thought it was my term that day months ago &#8211; obamanated- was a rib at two things<br />
A) corporate America and the whole &#8220;job elmination&#8221; process that I have been through a number of times at different places &#8211; which is just the nature of the beast and<br />
B) the fact that my job was in a creative field which relied heavily on companies which do work in the real estate market. &#8230;..the policies (noted above) going back to Jimmy Carter&#8230;.created the seeds of the bad events that caused the housing and real estate market to downturn. There was plenty of R and D blame to go around, but &#8211; at least- during the Bush administration there was an effort, led by Rs to bring some sanity to the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debacle.   And Barney Frank and Chris Dodd declared all was right with those worlds, which was a lie. </p>
<p>Finally, I have a sense of humor so I got a kick out of that name.  </p>
<p>Do I blame my singular job loss on Ds or Obama? No, lots of forces are at work with one person.</p>
<p>Do I blame the continued lack of recovery on Ds or Obama? Yes, because markets and business owners are ALL looking for some stability, are horrified at government takeovers and bailouts ( I was against the Bush one!) and are scared of new mandates, new regulations and new taxes which will all cut into their already thin margins.<br />
You DO think it is okay for a business person &#8211; who invests time, money and passion into a risky investment&#8230;to make a margin? Don&#8217;t you? </p>
<p>America is wonderful. Capitalism is the greatest manna from heaven, but you know what, competition is tough, and it is worldwide and consumers have and make choices&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.and many government policies and bureaucrats&#8230;have NO idea! </p>
<p>Do I want to be employed? You bet!  Have I invested in that? Yes, including investing in a small new business for me, by myself, which likely will not Break Even (please tell me you know what I mean) in maybe two years&#8230;and will MAYBE return me to the kind of compensation I was making&#8230;&#8230;.in about three plus years! </p>
<p>And when I make money&#8230;I spend money and I invest it&#8230;.and that means a lot more people make money&#8230;etc.  Right now&#8230;..that ain&#8217;t happening. </p>
<p>BTW&#8230;you never retorted about the fact that I brought up about Joe Biden and his wife giving $368 dollars to charity&#8230;.when they raked in over $360,000 in one year.    That, from the man who says it is my duty to pay more taxes!  &#8230;..Do you see the injustice? the cowardice? the hypocrisy?  PLEASE RETORT! </p>
<p>on my way to create my signs for the 9-12 event tomorrow! I will be the one with the funny signs with a message!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Brandon</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-241</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Brandon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ben re: RINO&#039;s....
As opposed to the DINO&#039;s who populated the Democratic party.
There&#039;s only one true progressive (Russ Feingold) in the Senate, and bugger-all few in the House (calling Pelosi a Liberal is a laugh).
The whole political spectrum has shifted to the right, and what are now called &#039;moderate&#039; Democrats would have been Republicans twenty years ago (or Dixiecrats 40).

I was reminded of this when former Senator Dave Durenberger (R MN) participated in Tim Walz&#039;s (D MN) town meeting.
Their positions were virtually identical -- Durenberger was considered a moderate when he was in office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ben re: RINO&#8217;s&#8230;.<br />
As opposed to the DINO&#8217;s who populated the Democratic party.<br />
There&#8217;s only one true progressive (Russ Feingold) in the Senate, and bugger-all few in the House (calling Pelosi a Liberal is a laugh).<br />
The whole political spectrum has shifted to the right, and what are now called &#8216;moderate&#8217; Democrats would have been Republicans twenty years ago (or Dixiecrats 40).</p>
<p>I was reminded of this when former Senator Dave Durenberger (R MN) participated in Tim Walz&#8217;s (D MN) town meeting.<br />
Their positions were virtually identical &#8212; Durenberger was considered a moderate when he was in office.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the support but to this ---&gt;   &quot;policies of his administration directly resulted in the steep economic decline.
&quot;  and to borrow your favorite colloquialism &quot;Get real&quot; I offer up the following evidence to the contrary.

http://rightamerican.wordpress.com/gse-meltdown-time-line/

Read it if you will, but if you do, you will see why you will have to reclassify your statement as rhetoric at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support but to this &#8212;&gt;   &#8220;policies of his administration directly resulted in the steep economic decline.<br />
&#8221;  and to borrow your favorite colloquialism &#8220;Get real&#8221; I offer up the following evidence to the contrary.</p>
<p><a href="http://rightamerican.wordpress.com/gse-meltdown-time-line/" rel="nofollow">http://rightamerican.wordpress.com/gse-meltdown-time-line/</a></p>
<p>Read it if you will, but if you do, you will see why you will have to reclassify your statement as rhetoric at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-239</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE:I think (maybe I just hope, but I think it is more than that) we are witnessing the turning point….the end of the liberal trend that has engulfed our government for so many years.

Back in 1995 the Republican Party won control of both houses of Congress for the first time since 1954.   

The Republicans had an opportunity advance their brand of conservative policy making but blew it.  Their time was short-lived.

Thing is, the Republican party was then and remains now populated with too many left-leaning moderates.  I think they call them R.I.N.O.s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE:I think (maybe I just hope, but I think it is more than that) we are witnessing the turning point….the end of the liberal trend that has engulfed our government for so many years.</p>
<p>Back in 1995 the Republican Party won control of both houses of Congress for the first time since 1954.   </p>
<p>The Republicans had an opportunity advance their brand of conservative policy making but blew it.  Their time was short-lived.</p>
<p>Thing is, the Republican party was then and remains now populated with too many left-leaning moderates.  I think they call them R.I.N.O.s</p>
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		<title>By: hippieprof</title>
		<link>http://hippieprofessor.com/2009/09/07/labor-day-reflections/#comment-238</link>
		<dc:creator>hippieprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sockit...

First - I am sincerely sorry to hear about your employment situation.  Please understand that whatever opinionated partisan bickering I do in no means suggests that I am not understanding about all of the economic pain that is out there.

Yes - I am tenured at a private university - so my job security is relatively good.  I don&#039;t have complete security - private universities are losing students in this economy and eventually that will result in some job losses - but I am personally thankful that we are far from that point.  I do recognize how very lucky I am.

As you know, employment is a trailing economic indicator - and I am indeed hoping that it will turn around soon.

I am curious, though, how you can blame this economic downturn on liberals?  When Bush took over the economy was thriving - and the policies of his administration directly resulted in the steep economic decline.  

-- hippieprof</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sockit&#8230;</p>
<p>First &#8211; I am sincerely sorry to hear about your employment situation.  Please understand that whatever opinionated partisan bickering I do in no means suggests that I am not understanding about all of the economic pain that is out there.</p>
<p>Yes &#8211; I am tenured at a private university &#8211; so my job security is relatively good.  I don&#8217;t have complete security &#8211; private universities are losing students in this economy and eventually that will result in some job losses &#8211; but I am personally thankful that we are far from that point.  I do recognize how very lucky I am.</p>
<p>As you know, employment is a trailing economic indicator &#8211; and I am indeed hoping that it will turn around soon.</p>
<p>I am curious, though, how you can blame this economic downturn on liberals?  When Bush took over the economy was thriving &#8211; and the policies of his administration directly resulted in the steep economic decline.  </p>
<p>&#8211; hippieprof</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 17:10:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow - I thought I coined the term &quot;I&#039;ve been Obamanated&quot; when I was laid off last Thursday.  

Having been &quot;Obamanated&quot; is  the reason I can engage in blogwhoring for most of the day which was religiously reserved for off-hours.  Not anymore.

Isn&#039;t this change thing just fricking awesome?

(Bumper sticker idea is the sole property of Ben and may not be used in whole or in part unless permission is explicitly expressed.  Bumper sticker may be obtained for 4.99 plus shipping and handling.  Act now and receive 2 bumper stickers for 8.99 plus shipping and handling. Operators are standing by.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow &#8211; I thought I coined the term &#8220;I&#8217;ve been Obamanated&#8221; when I was laid off last Thursday.  </p>
<p>Having been &#8220;Obamanated&#8221; is  the reason I can engage in blogwhoring for most of the day which was religiously reserved for off-hours.  Not anymore.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t this change thing just fricking awesome?</p>
<p>(Bumper sticker idea is the sole property of Ben and may not be used in whole or in part unless permission is explicitly expressed.  Bumper sticker may be obtained for 4.99 plus shipping and handling.  Act now and receive 2 bumper stickers for 8.99 plus shipping and handling. Operators are standing by.)</p>
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